Very detailed, useful, and opinionated. Thank you
Vimal Madhavan works as/at
Sub-editor, Western Mail
I am interested in free-lance editing. Any suggestions about getting started?
Lane Bramblett works as/at
Technical Editor, BDM International
I can't find a web site showing proofreader's marks. Is there one you're aware of? Thanks
Lowell Moorcroft works as/at
I can't seem to E-Mail you at bwalsh@theslot.com. Are you getting to much? I have something I wrote you might enjoy. Oh, by the way dept: Retronyms??? T'ain't in my dictionaries. However, pleonasym is in all of them. I think somebody is pushing your leg.
Don Howard works as/at
I would like to find out more about copy editing from home. I have been recovering from a serious illness and cannot seem to convince employers to give me a chance. I was a managing editor of two daily papers and one weekly paper some years back. Any help would be appreciated. Hi Newman
Hi Newman works as/at
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I came upon your page while I was searching for information to bombard my colleagues with. We are an engineering-based software company with atrocious writing style displayed among staff members. A friend and I decided that we should become the "Spelling, Grammar and Style Police" in the office. Your web site has allowed us to illustrate with clear examples the reasons for clarity and correctness in our documentation. Thank you.
Joel Hynoski works as/at
Software Engineer
It is to wonder... A, An: With acronyms: It's an IBM serf, but is it an ROTC graduate? When you visit the ATM machine, don't forget your PIN number. These are pleonasms. I've a file of those (ones). True Lies, and it's Deja Vu all over again. Can you think of any additions to the list: sanction, dust, egregious, economy Does departing go with deplaning? Icebox, Tinfoil, and other relics - Tell that to the script writers who keep recycling cliques from thirties gangster movies. To boldly go. And a parsec is 3 + light-years, but Han Solo uses it for a speed both in the original and the revised Star Wars. And where in the midwest do they say borrow for lend? Loath, loathe - envelop, envelope Gotta go - more later - good stuff DEH
Don Howard works as/at
Hah!
Have you done the nude-naked bit? Screen writers seem to only know thw word Naked. Won't be long before we have "Nakedist" camps.
Don Howrd works as/at
Hah!
Your site is a sight for sore eyes! It's a computer version of Fowler's MODERN ENGLISH USAGE by Oxford Press. That you do not beat around the bush, nor give quarter to faddist foolishness being foisted onto the reading public by so many publications nowadays, is your most endearing quality - to me. My mother was a newswoman in eastern N.C. until she retired at 79; now I am starting a bi-weekly, legitimate (I pray) newspaper in this small, isolated district at the tip of Hawaii Island. With a population of 4,500, mostly former sugar plantation workers of mixed and diverse ethnic backgrounds (Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Filipino, Portuguese and native Hawaiian), the challenge is to ensure inclusiveness at all levels of reporting, advertising, and content. I'm looking for a publication which defines the elements of a newspaper, job descriptions of roles, story structures, and any other instructional gizmos that would be helpful in teaching my editorial board what they've got themselves into! Do you have a recommendation? We are not only isolated, but we also have to "import" nearly every item beyond Wal-Mart level of consumerism. Not that that is a bad thing, mind you. We shall turn to your website OFTEN, I'm sure. Any help you can provide us will be graciously appreciated and applied. Mahalo nui and Aloha, Charlotte
Charlotte Hamilton Donat works as/at
Managing Editor, Kohala Mountain News
I infuriated one of my j-school professors by choosing to become a magazine editor rather than a respectable newspaper copy editor. Occasionally I still feel pangs of regret. (Sigh.) Now I'm a freelance writer, a choice even more odious. :- ) Thanks for a great site! I think I'll link to it this week. Check out: http://freelancewrite.miningco.com Lisa
Lisa Carr works as/at
Freelance writer
Great resource (your stylebook) :)
Annette Barnes works as/at
ISG Marketing Manager, MSI Consulting Group
Nice page and good to see that some other people have the exact same complaints and suggestions that I have had at my current paper. The Leader is a very small daily (8,600) and the copy desk usually consists of just one person for news. That person is expected to design and layout wire pages as well as take local copy, place it, read it and create a visually appealing package. The workload is not a problem. The paper simply brings in people with a propensity toward workaholism (like myself). However, the lack of respect paid to the desk sometimes causes concerns.
Chris Farkas works as/at
Copy Editor, The Orange Leader
I found The Slot to be very informative. If you can provide me with some information on how to get involved in this industry I would be very appreciative. Thank you.
Cindy Schneider works as/at
I found The Slot to be very informative. If you can provide me with some information on how to get involved in this industry I would be very appreciative. Thank you.
Cindy Schneider works as/at
I'm a 17-year old senior in high school. I think I want to be an editor when I grow up, if I do. :) I edit papers and stories and things for my friends sometimes, and I'm really picky and nasty to them. When I found your page I thought, hey, cool, another picky person. :) If I could I'd like to tell you about some of my pet peves that I didn't see on your page. Because you edit adult stuff and I edit badly written high school and college stuff, you might not run into these problems...then again, you might. into, in to He ran into the tree. He put the socks in to the drawer. This is the right way to do this, isn't it? I don't know... upon, up on same deal. He climbed up on the horse. He sat upon the horse. affect, effect Budget cuts do not affect dead people. Dying is a side effect of getting old. Cryogenically freezing yourself is not effective against budget cuts. Is that correct? Eschew Obfuscation thanx Kris Wolfe
Kris Wolfe works as/at
you don't want to know.
Love your website. Really clarifies some finer points of the law for me. One of the writers at my office insists that "done" means "cooked" and that we should only use the word "finished" when we mean "completed." For example: "I'm done" means "I'm cooked" "I finished" means "I completed" "I am finished" means "I am defeated" I think the meaning of "done" isn't that specific, especially since it's the past tense of "do" and "do" doesn't mean "cook." Your thoughts?
Robert Lindsay works as/at
QA Manager, Allen Communication
Thank you! The Slot is a fantastic resource. As the only wordsmith is a company of graphic artists, it's reassuring to have a reference such as yours. My background: 10 years in radio (on-air) Various marketing & training positions Owned my own video production company (1 employee-Me!) Now a copywriter. Thanks again. The passion that went into your site shows through on every page. Scott
Scott Piehler works as/at
Copywriter, Triggerfish Marketing & Communications
I'd like to ask you a question about this sentence: In other words, if the clause applies only to Gramm (and using has indicates that it does), what in the world are many candidates doing in the sentence? It seems to me that there aren't actually many candidates in the sentence; rather, there is the phrase "many candidates" in the sentence. Using the plural "are" before "many candidates" suggests the former rather than the latter, in my mind. It's a subtle (and perhaps erroneous) distinction, but since you are making the point that we need to think rather than just follow rules, it's one I would like to hear more about --er, uh-- one more about which I would like to hear.
Dave Aton works as/at
Technical consultant
We are not alone.
Rick and Pam Baert works as/at
copy editors Daily Herald, IL
I'm becoming a regular visitor. (I asked a grammar question and who was your favorite Brady a while back). You said you and your gal might be coming this way to try your luck at North America's BIGGEST casino. If you'd like any info etc. write
Carol MCCarthy works as/at
copy editor, New London Day
I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN INTERESTED IN COPYWRITING AND READING OF ALL KINDS
PATRICIA WHITE works as/at
NONE
At the tender age of 53, I have decided to become a writer. I can't tell you how much it both thrills me and frightens me at the same time to say that! My only comments are that I'm glad I found your website, and I've thoroughly enjoyed reading it.
Pikie Olsen works as/at
none yet
I like what I've seen a lot. Very intelligent, sensible, helpful, and enjoyable. Thanks
Parlan McGaw works as/at
Copy Chief, Redbook
I am interested in starting a business from my home and am checking out proofreading. Is it possible to find publishers who will allow you to do this or do they prefer you be in their immediate area? My sister is an author and her publisher wants their copy editors and proofreaders to be in their office. Thanks. Derralee Johnson
Derralee Johnson works as/at
NA
Thanks for all your work and good humor. This is a great resource. Do you have a life too? Keep up the good work.
Richard Cunningham works as/at
Free-lance writer and photographer
Haven't had a chance to look at in detail thus far, but like what I see to this point. There is the right way to do it and the wrong way. Too many people don't know the difference.
Bret Gilliland works as/at
Associate Commissioner -- Midwestern Collegiate Conf.
I LOVE your site! I am called grammar queen and told that I am too picky by some colleagues and friends, but it's actually flattering. I enjoyed exploring your site and I know that I'll be back often.
neha shah works as/at
public affairs manager - roscoe village
Hello Bill, Enjoyed your Web site. I'm a copyeditor myself at the dead tree edition of http://thestar.com.my. Over here, we use UK English. I can't say I agree entirely with what's stated in the stylebook but then again there are differences between American and British English. I'm into the fun of building a homepage myself. Should be up by the first quarter of '98. Hmm....your site would be a useful link on my site. Bye George/
George W works as/at
See me comments above. Write or call if you're so inclined. Susan Murphy
Susan Murphy works as/at
medical editor for Clinical Reference Systems
Have a nive day.
Safi A. Rahim works as/at
Hunting for it.
I graduated from Mt Hood Community College in Portland last June (AA Journalism degree). I'm a 52 year old hippie, trucker, Nam-Vet, semi-employed workaholic. I'm doing a series of 15 articles for DM magazine. They are 1500 words each and it pays $1,000. The subject, "Focus on Jesus," is so overwhelming that I can't seem to get started. Ironically, He (Jesus) wants my entire being socially seperated, fully studied, dedicated, concentrated and surrendered inorder to accomplish this work. Me, I'm trying to hang on to the world with the ends of my bleeding fingernails, scratching and crawling and starving to death. I don't even know why I'm telling you this except that you might have some freely associated hardheaded advice for me.
Michael Rooney works as/at
freelance features writer/photog-Daily Meditations
Bill, your site is great!!! I admire you and your work. Please keep it up. My best wishes to you.
Lee LaRocque works as/at
Manuscript editing & ghostwriting. Self Employed.
I'd like to start my own business.
Raffaela Carnell works as/at
City of Beverly Hills
Will share this site with my readers, thanks.
Matt Alcott works as/at
Southwest Brewing News, Collegian-University of Tulsa
The site is interesting and amusing. A fair amount of it doesn't meet my needs, because I'm not doing anything requiring AP style. The house style for tech writing is generally CMS, and when I copyedit fiction, there's _no_ good general manual -- I wish there were. _Strunk and White_ is about as definitive as it gets.
Beth Friedman works as/at
self-employed technical writer
return visitor. pleased to see you're still adding stuff. you're one of few Web stylebooks; maybe you'd like to link to others. all i've found so far are honolulu star-bulletin, san antonio express-news and atlanta journal-constitution. great site for copy editors (and former copy editors).
Doug Bevins works as/at
systems editor, Record-Journal, Meriden, Conn.
Hey, Bill, we're wondering what you think about "toddler." As in, subjectively, how old do you think the little tykes can be and still be an infant, then toddler, then plain old kid? We do a lot more here than worry about this distinction, but we're convinced there really is one--it's just not articulated in any references we've run across. You might be our last best hope for someone reasonably authoritative who is willing to make an educated guess that sounds good and can later be confidently quoted as gospel truth.
John Mueller works as/at
Louisville Courier-Journal, regional desk copy editor
Enjoyed looking around your web site -- I will be back!
Lee Ann Smith works as/at
Reporter for The Dothan Eagle
I am researching the need for medical text editing for someone (me) who is a voracious reader and has twenty-plus years experience in transcription, that I might never hear another heavily-accented, foreign doctor dictate "esophagogastroduodenoscopy" again! Thanks for letting me rant. (So, got any suggestions?)
Jo Margaret. Could be the best I've hit on the web. works as/at
Medical transcription editing. Self.
G'day I much enjoyed your Sharp Points, some of which are very close to my heart after three years in my present jobs. I was particularly taken with the one about KD Laing. I have just been reading a book by Douglas R Hofstadter who is a very interesting bloke but knows it. I tend to think of him as *D*O*U*G*L*A*S* *R* H*O*F*S*T*A*D*T*E*R* so we must hope that he doesn't know Leo Rosten. I haven't looked at all of The Slot because I have only just discovered For Copy Editors and wanted to give it a bit of a survey, but I will return Keep up the good work Martin
Martin Hillman works as/at
Systems sub-editor and revise sub, The Scotsman
You provide a great service by putting all this information on-line and making it readily available. Thank you!
David Santos works as/at
Chief Public Affairs Specialist, U. S. Coast Guard
This is a fabulous site. We have several students in our office, and I'm hoping they'll read through it for some much-needed pointers. (I need the pointers as well, of course!) We're having a bit of a debate here, and I'd love to have you help me solve it. In athletics, like any other endeavor, there are numerous "of-the-year" awards -- player of the year, coach of the year, newcomer of the year, etc. I'm trying to preach to my students that (as a noun) it's "Player of the Year," but they want to hyphenate it. I tell them they can't hyphenate it unless it's an adjective (Smith won the Player-of-the-Year Award), but they don't believe me. Can you help me explain it to them? Thanks! :) (What's correct style for a smiley?)
Will Hancock works as/at
Coordinator, Athletic Media Relations, Oklahoma St. U.
I would really like to get a job as a copy editor and work out of my home. I have three young children that still need their mommy. I have some experience, not expressely in copy editing, but I know I can do it. How can I get started? Thanks for any suggestions you can offer.
Katrina Johnson works as/at
none yet
He was right. I went out to the Slot on the first day I had Web access here. I've already copied your comments regarding the use of the words "assure", "ensure", and "insure" into an e-mail to my boss (and fortunately also my friend) the wing commander. Mutual red-inking of drafts has been a joint pastime for us for more than three years, and that issue has been one where he hasn't "caved". (Sorry. I couldn't resist.) I'm looking forward to his reply.
(Capt) Jeanne W. Hill works as/at
Executive Officer, 157th Air Refueling Wing, NHANG
Very helpful. JUMP is a new magazine for teenaged girls, and we are trying to establish a stylebook. My two copy editors and I have different opinions on style and your guide has helped us agree on a few points.
Maureen Meyers works as/at
Managing Editor, JUMP Magazine (Weider Publications)
Great site! I like your upfront comments and suggestions. I truly wish more people could find you. I have a question that I hope you can answer. A friend of mine and I were discussing spacing after sentence terminators. He insisted that I always type two spaces after each terminator. I insisted that I shouldn't: as a hold over from the typewriter era, its use seems to have fallen out of favor with people who use word processing programs. It also seems to have fallen out of favor with editors. My question is this: what is the real reason for the style change and what are most editors really looking for? We also talked about the justified differences as well. In other words, even though the text of most books is justified, editors do not want to see mss. justified. Is this true? If so, why? Do you also know of any sites that compare the differences between typewriter style and word processing style? I'm speaking strictly about layout and structure. Thank you for your help and time. I really like your articles and find them very useful AND entertaining. A rare thing...especially on the Web! Kris Hawes
Kris Hawes works as/at
Programmer, Boole & Babbage
great site. english is only my third language and i need all the help i can get on how to improve my writing
max sherwin limpag works as/at
copy editor of The Freeman
Just looking
Melanie A. Howell works as/at
Deltal Dental Plan of Virginia
Although not in the newspaper business, I did major in English and need to write readable material as part of my job. I have not "surfed" your entire web site, but I did find one set of frequently misapplied and misused words missing from your Word Choice section: Apprise and Appraise. I live in South San Francisco, and I am dismayed at how frequently our City Council members (on local cable even) ask the staff to "keep me appraised of this situation". I have the desire to go to the meeting and ask them, "Since when did a situation become a piece of property????" Love your humor and look foward to reading (and learning) more of and from your site. Thanks.
Margaret M. Warren works as/at
University of California, San Francisco
I am department manager of a translation and publication deptment that does technical manual for car manufacturer. i have no experence in the publication field and need help.
"Mary Theresa Jeffries" works as/at
publishing and translation (TTAPI)
I have to disagree with your Washington state remark, if only because it's universally used out here. In fact, it's usually Washington State, which I agree isn't strictly correct, but there it is. Everywhere. Maybe it started as a contrast to Washington, DC-- parallel construction and all that-- and it certainly had to do with our desire not to be mistaken for the US capital. At least we don't have to say, "the other Washington" any more, thanks to Bill Gates putting us on the map. Thanks again for your website, which is a pleasure to read-- Al Johnson
Al Johnson works as/at
Real Estate Broker and Grammar Policeman
I enjoyed your slot. I would certainly have used it in my endless battle with students who thought that their use of the language English was only important if theywere studying literature. It would be more successful in engaging their interest than the books I referred them to- Fowler, Sir Ernest Gowers and the Australian Government Style Manual. In Australia we shift uneasily between the English and American usage as we attempt to define our own approach. I would like to see your comments on "unique", "exotic" and "crucial". I look forward to more new comments.
Marie Bone works as/at
Retired University Teacher
Just got here. Comments later.
Mark Krell works as/at
Internal Audit Director, IDOC
I try not to be a jerk, too, but on your FAQ page, shouldn't it be "bragging rights" (as in, you have a right to brag about those awards) rather than "bragging rites" (as in, you have a ritual that involves bragging (well, maybe you do, but,,,))? I'm sorry, I can't help it, years of editing has destroyed me.
Michael Morgan works as/at
Legal editor, Lexis Law Publishing
I love your site! I use it nearly every day. I left my trusty AP stylebook overseas, so your site has been incredibly helpful. Thanks for providing this fantastic resource!
Tonya Wilholt works as/at
Project Coordinator, Nucleus Communications
As a retired copy desk bully of dimwitted reporters, self-styled columnists and assorted other alleged writers, I admire your gumption and enjoyed your page. Best of luck for continued success. I'm trying to write children's short stories and books and volunteering at the local middle school to help teach kids READ and WRITE before they drop -- or flunk -- out of school!
Howard M. Kaplan works as/at
Retired Denver Post copy desk chief, asst.ed Empire Mag
hi bill. i went to school with you and you fixed my baseball copy. how are you? i loaded this site for my new job at microsoft. i am out of newspapers now. it became too ugly for me. i was sports editor at knight-ridder/tribune news service in the national press building. please e-mail me and let me know how you are doing. glad to see you and jacqueline are doing great.
lee kornmuller works as/at
copy editor, microsoft
Just wanted to say thanks for the new stuff. I find your site very helpful in clarifying some areas of confusion. My favorite? Jane's (PR lady) letter. :-) Cate
Cate Cameron works as/at
copy editor, REMEDY Magazine
It was interesting and helpful to peruse your site. I'm identifying online reference sources for our editorial group.
Linda Sellevaag works as/at
Managing Editor, AIMD, General Accounting Office
A quick perusal tells me this site is real. Thanks for the "What's New" feature. I am going to add it to my "favorites" for future reference--and THAT does not happen often! EB
eric bellscheidt works as/at
microsoft
I've saved your material and will comment when I have read it properly.
Marie Bone works as/at
Retired academic
Thanks for the assurance. I never thought you were one -- a jerk, I mean. Anyway, I will watch my Ps and Qs... or is it p and qs? *grin* Here are my comments: Great education. And interestingly written to make me read the entire site at one sitting! Will definitely watch out for more. But you haven't mentioned anything about how or whether to hyphenate, um, let's say, thirtyfive? One word, two words? Warm regards, Chindu (Gosh, I re-read (?) the darned message twice!)
Chindu Sreedharan works as/at
Staff Writer, Rediff On The NeT
Thanks for the assurance. I never thought you were one -- a jerk, I mean. Anyway, I will watch my Ps and Qs... or is it p and qs? *grin* Here are my comments: Great education. And interestingly written enough to make me read the entire site at one sitting! Will definitely watch out for more. But you haven't mentioned anything about how or whether to hyphenate, um, let's say, thirtyfive? One word, two words? Warm regards, Chindu (Gosh, I re-read (?) the darned message twice!)
Chindu Sreedharan works as/at
Staff Writer, Rediff On The NeT
A very useful tool. I sometimes feel like I'm correcting almost everyone that I work with (without earning their paycheck), and it's nice to know that there is knowledge out there. Ironically, I'm an Art major and my husband is the English major.
Donna Kane works as/at
Secretary, Marine Midland Bank
I've bookmarked The Slot so I can refer to it every now and then. Need I say more? (Talk about conciseness and bluntness.) Question: I am teaching third year Mass Communication students news editing this semester. They are English second language speakers with the first language getting in the way at times in their speaking and writing. Should there be a stress on grammatical accuracy in this case or should I just bank on what you call commonsensical way of editing?
Rosana D. Congjuico works as/at
parttime university instructor teaching news editing
Hi, I was just surfing and came across your page. I found it quite informative. I'll keep it book marked. Come visit my page and don't forget to sign the guestbook. Many Trails.
Eileen Puge works as/at
published writer/photographer
You are my hero! I love your page and I thank you for creating it. The English language needs more people like you around!
Corey Eagan works as/at
freshman linguistics major at Georgetown University
I haven't had time to go through the style book yet, but look forward to doing so, especially since I did a lot of the work on the local style manual at my former job. (Until August, I was a copy editor for the News & Record in Greensboro, N.C.) I did take a look at your piece about dashes and hyphens and loved it. It's comforting to see that someone notices and cares about those things. I'm living in a rural area of coastal Maine, 90 miles from the nearest daily, so am looking for copyediting work outside newspapers, but I'll still be checking out your page often. It looks great so far! Best -- Laurel
Laurel Robinson works as/at
freelance copy editor
I wanna have a page like yours when I grow up. So far I haven't disagreed with a thing (even though I'm really a Chicago Manual sort of girl), and I'm thrilled to finally find a clear, concise definition of the difference between "lawyer" and "attorney." I'll be back.
Beverly Marshall Saling works as/at
Executive editor, Wizards of the Coast, Inc.
This web site is a great idea. Sometimes there's an esoteric rule or an unusual phrasing that's hard to find in our in-house style book. For example, "a historic" or "an historic" is a dilemma the books in our office don't really acknowledge exists; they say simply "a historic." Yet "an historic" is the form I was taught in school, as was my husband, who graduated from a different school system. At least your style site deals with both forms and the probable origin of "an historic." I must have had one too many English literature courses--or maybe saw one too many episodes of "Masterpiece Theatre." I must confess, though I use "a historic" in copy editing, it still looks wrong, and I can't help but say "an historic" in conversation. Gee, I must sound like 'Liza Doolittle talking about 'enry 'iggins.
JKBrown works as/at
copy editor for a book publisher
Good site. In a hurry now, but will come back. Thanks for the hospitality. Bruce
Bruce Brownell works as/at
Self
i finded your page very helpingly. my gramer and speling is gooder. kepe up withe you're gud werk. i thunk that now i speak good english. i hop too lurn moor bout good gramer. i think that yer gramer is gooder than my is. but sun i hop thAt mine will be gooder than yerz
I.P. Nightly works as/at
Head probe man at Ecstacy corp.
The site is great. I act as copy editor for our base paper, among other things, and found it very informative and interesting. I've downloaded some of your rants and am passing them around the office. Your site will surely become a common haunt for our young writing staff as they grind out our weekly paper. How about a page with explanations of newspaper room jargon? I know most of it, but didn't know "slot" or "rim" editors. I'm sure there's more that I and others would be interested in. Thanks, 1st Lt. Jason Decker
Jason Decker works as/at
Chief of Internal Information, U.S. Air Force
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lisa libersat works as/at
I like it!
Sherry Huffman works as/at
free lanc writer/insurance specialist
HARDEST DAMN JOB I EVER HAD. WHY DIDN'T MY NEWSROOM BUDDIES WARN ME!!!
ROBERSON, L.A. works as/at
NAPLES DAILY NEWS
I like the little I've seen -- I'll be back.
Dave Michels works as/at
Editor & Publisher, St. Michael's-by-the-Sea Church
Tedious material made interesting -- entertaining, even. Also, your usage notes and capitalization rules for Internet-related words resolved a long-standing debate among the copy directors in the office. Thanks. And keep up the good work. Tim.
Tim Herrig works as/at
Executive Copy Director, Jackson & Perkins, Bear Creek
I enjoyed the Ranting(!) section very much. I have one question: I'm looking for Editor's Associations that I can join and maybe enter my newsletter into some contests. If you can give me some names, I'll be very grateful. Thanks, Terri Thomas
Terri Thomas works as/at
Newsletter Editor at Kahnawake Community Services
Thank you for helping me clear up a serious hole in AP style. As The Eagle's grammar guru, it has been rather embarrassing never to be comfortable with all my decisions on hyphenation. It's also nice to know there are others out there who share my insanity.
Alex R. Cohen works as/at
News Editor / copy editor, The Eagle, AU student paper
What a great line: "Welcome to my disease." I feel right at home here, like I've found others who understand. I live in Texas, and you have no idea the daily horrors I encounter. Seen just today on a moving truck: "Two Sister's Moving Company." I had to run home and take a xanax.
Gayle works as/at
Currently freelance. Free-lance. Free lance.
First, I like this site. Another source to use is a good thing, although it could be construed as another "choice." This, as we know, is time consuming. Do we go by AP, Dictionary, etc. Being in the magazine industry, it varies from the newspaper industry, which mostly uses AP (or Chicago) Style. Okay, the question: when using brackets inside a quote, to give clarity, does one go with the flow of the quote and use first person "my" or interrupt the flow and go with "her"? Example: "My family visits Oregon for vacation [My family is from California]." or would one use [her family...]? This is obviously not necessary to the sentence, but the one in reality is necessary for a story. I was under the impression that if brackets are used, that expresses an explanation, which would not use first person. Thanks a lot!
Kristen Kazarian works as/at
Weider Publications
Gave me enough info to write my essay. Cheers! AR
A Race works as/at
student
See above!
Andrea Wilson works as/at
Mobile Data Solutions Inc.
First, I am glad that you are not a jerk . Secondly I think that the information I found at your Website is excellent and i hope that you keep it up
Chris Kelly works as/at
Self-employed , wwmedia digital marketing
Just stopped by to look around. I am interested in starting to do some copyediting, and I am researching how to get started. I have a computer, a modem, a B.A. degree in English and I am "anal" about grammar. And so much search continues!
Amy Johnson works as/at
Inventory Control Specialist, MAS
Your point in the Curmudgeon Stylebook about "area people" unleashed a humorous memory from a career stop a long time ago and far away. One of our copy editors, who will remain nameless because she (amazingly) still works in the business, had a personal standard for what constituted "area," "local" or "city." It was a standard that she couldn't articulate and most of us didn't think existed. At any rate, she applied this standard in a headline that remains the funniest, and lamest, I've ever seen. The story was about this, well, bum who went before the town council to register his opposition to the construction of a building. Turns out that the project would entail the destruction of the squalid, abandoned structure this guy lived in. The headline: CITY MAN'S PLIGHT TOLD It looked even better in print. And I mean that in the worst possible way.
Craig Lancaster works as/at
Sports copy editor, Anchorage Daily News
I'm trying to get out of banking - it steals the soul. I really miss the years I spent on staff at The Mage as submissions and poetry editor. God, we were small press, but oh, the power! And yes, folks, we were legitimate, with international submission and subscribership. The trouble is, how do I get from the seventh level of Hell to those Elysian fields without leaving Pensacola? Suggestions?
Tina Dyer works as/at
Barnett Bank - Finance
Greetings
I am a freelance journalist and single parent trying to maintain a home based business so I don't have to be away from home all the time.
Any suggestions you may have about available work in copy editing would be appreciated.
For your information I have included my resume.
Thank you
Peggy Guiler
RESUME
Peggy (Margaret L.) Guiler-Delahunt
RR#4
Simcoe, ON N3Y 4K3
Phone: (519) 443-4512
Career Objectives
Women's Studies/ Life Skills Training
Journalism/Public Relations writing (Freelance and Contract)
Highlights of Qualifications
A creative and resourceful person with highly developed communications and
interpersonal skills.
Enjoy meeting new challenges and the opportunity of new learning experiences.
Skills
Public Relations:
Experienced in all aspects of public relations field including:
* Newsletters * Brochure publication
* Strategies * Media packages
* Photography * Media releases
* Report writing * Public education/presentations
* Promotion * Fund Raising
Journalism:
Over six years as a freelance journalist involving the following skills
* Interviewing *Reporting
* Public Relations *Effective, accurate writing
Event Planning:
Organization of conferences, trade fairs and community events
Budgeting, fund raising, scheduling, collating packages
Excellent promotion and marketing skills
Ability to moderate groups
Communication and Listening:
Instruct adults skills for more effective interpersonal, communication, listening and
crisis intervention.
Business Skills:
Experience at operating a successful painting and janitorial business
Demonstrated sales, management, supervisory, financial, and customer service
skills
Technical Skills:
Good working knowledge of computer programs:
* DOS * Word Perfect 5.1, 6 & 7
* Windows * Corel Draw
Extensive knowledge of media techniques including:
* Photography * Video
* Radio
Skilled in office procedures including:
* Keyboarding * Typing (60wpm)
* Fax Machines * Photocopy machines
* Telephone Systems * Reception duties
Education & Training
McMaster University
First Year Social Science/Women's Studies
Self Employment Training Certificate
CASEY, WRATTEN AND ASSOCIATES - Simcoe, ON
Journalism Diploma
ALGONQUIN COLLEGE - Ottawa, ON
Ontario Secondary School Diploma
PORT DOVER COMPOSITE SCHOOL - Port Dover, ON
Computer Training Certificate
FANSHAW COLLEGE - Simcoe, ON
Video Production Certificate
JOBS ONTARIO - Toronto, ON
Certificate
TELECARE TELEMINISTRIES CANADA
Communications Experience
Write Expressions Enterprises - Sole Proprietor
Women in Rural Economic Development/jobsOntario - Coordinator
Enterprising Women (Haldimand-Norfolk) - Coordinator
International Plowing Match and Country Festival - P.R. Committee
Port Dover Harbour Museum - Publicity
City of Nanticoke Museum Board - Chair
Simcoe Reformer, Hamilton, Spectator, Brantford Expositor - Freelance columnist and reporter on Regional & City of Nanticoke Councils.
Haldimand-Norfolk Museums and Arts Centres (LIP) - Publication production and public education trainer
Algonquin College/ & Student'sUnion - Director of Communication
Volunteer Experience
Mount Zion Fellowship - Youth Leader/ Bulletin production
City of Nanticoke Museum Board- Chair
Enterprising Women's Association - Chair
International Plowing Match and Country Festival - PR Committee
Port Dover Harbour Museum - Public Relations/Community Relations
Women's Aglow, Ontario Southern - Vice President Leadership Training
Women's Aglow, Simcoe - Secretary
Telecare Simcoe - Director, Director of Training
Algonquin College Student's Union - Director of Communications
Other Experience
Port Dover Yacht Club - Bar Steward
C-Us-2-Nite Video, Port Dover - Clerk
Econo Painting and Janitorial, Port Dover (family business)-books, cleaning contracts, painting.
Port Dover IDA, - Clerk
Knecktel Foods, Port Dover - Cook, clerk
Fern Resort, Orillia - Kitchen staff
References Available Upon Request
Peggy Guiler works as/at
Freelance journalist
I want to be a copy editor and work from my home. I am already set up with a fab computer with a fast modem. I don't have a fax, but that wouldn't be a problem if I knew I could get work. My background is in trucking--yes, trucking. However, I was a sales manager for an inside sales center, and the majority of my time was editing my team members' memos going out to other departments. That was my strength, and I LOVED IT! I'd love to find a way to make it pay off for me. I have a resume already; I just need it typeset on nice bond. Can you help direct me to some organizations that could use someone like me??
Dana Esposito works as/at
not worth mentioning. The job is too menial to describe
First visit and hot damn....what a treasure of a site for the more or less rather illiterate visual folks..... thank youX3
Dave Joern works as/at
Bum....lol....semi retired Medical Photographer
Well my newswriting class at Robert Morris College in Springfield Illinois cannot live without your website. Thank you so much. We love you!
Donna Metcalf works as/at
Which one?
I have not yet read your entire site, but thoroughly enjoyed what I have read thus far. Love the bit about the "200 percent" decrease! It's difficult not to be a jerk about grammar and punctuation when you hear it abused so often, especially by those closest to you. It's nice to read the words of someone else who appreciates the language. I'm looking forward to reading the rest of "The Slot."
Nancy Murray works as/at
proofreader for a large accounting firm
Nice page -- good comments -- right on (is that supposed to be hyphenated?).
Michael Daniels works as/at
Journalism instructor, Loyola Marymount University
You're bookmarked now, and will be regularly used as a desk reference.
George Sinos works as/at
Mgr Info Technology - Omaha Public Power District
Not only did I enjoy the Curmudgeon's Style Book, but it may prove useful as well. (How frequently does that happen?) My work section is updating our internal style guide, and we're looking for references to electronic/online issues (e.g., "Web site," "web site," "website," etc.) Of course, I disagree with your instructions to leave out the serial comma... But I suppose that can be forgiven. Keep up the good work!! jim g.
Jim Gillespie works as/at
Technical Writer, State Comptroller's Office
Great site! I'm going to come back and read through it all. I have great need for editing guidance -- who doesn't. Anyway I came here hoping that someone could tell me whether 'grandpa' is a proper noun. I know its a stupid question but do I captitalize 'Grandpa' when I'm referring to my particular grandpa, or do I leave it uncaptitalized. Particularly vexing is the fact that people often refer to their grandpa or grandma as Jampa, or Jammy, or Gramps, etc. In that case does it become a proper noun and thus capitalized?
Steve Neeley works as/at
Systems Manager
I was particularly intrigued by your perspective on the spelling/punctuation/capitalization of the terms (your way): e-mail and Internet. As one of those oddities of society who actually married someone I met through cyberspace (yes, we are in 3-D now), I feel an impassioned need to correctly express myself in this virtual arena. I have been using lowercase letters for "Internet" (i.e., "internet") for the same reasons that I do not capitalize the "e" in "earth," the "t" in "telephone," the "b" in "bank," the "h" in "highway," or the "s" in "spirit." The Internet is certainly a destination, but more importantly, it is a medium for human exchange (of ideas ... not generally exchange of bodies). We certainly have not endowed other arenas of exchange the same stature.
Jennifer Weuve works as/at
Copy Editor, University of Minnesota
A section on when to use commas with clauses that start with and would be useful.
Jim Wolffe works as/at
Editor, Air Force Times, Gannett, Inc.
I have not read very much of it yet, but I am impressed so far. I found the site while browsing and half-heartedly looking for a job (half-heartedly because I don't graduate until May).
Amy McClusky works as/at
Student and college newspaper copy editor
Wow! It is great. You can't tell it from this blurb, but incorrect punctuation and word usage drive me crazy. I have had several entry-level staff members that could have benefitted from this type of site. This will be a very useful reference in my new position. Thanks!
Leslie King works as/at
Dir. of communications, LPGA
Hi I have one question for you at the very end of this brief description of my situation. I'm surfing the web like crazy to find stuff like yours. I'm in a position to "better define" the editorial function and process at my place of work -- a multimedia company that offers clients customizations of its soft-skills training products (in various formats: video, CD Rom, audio, book, and soon, intranet). The editorial process in this company, as with many multimedia companies (as you may already know), is practically non-existant. A project manager is considered lucky if his/her consultant does the copyediting before it's submitted for typesetting. If one is not, this means the copy gets several speedy proofs by various people who have no concept of a stylesheet. That is our "editorial process" in a nutshell. I'm recognized in the company as one who has an eye for detail. And I've just been singled out as the one who is responsible for the "integrity of content" for all of our products. To begin processing in my head the gravity of my new task, I've created an outline, which I hope to fill out in the next few weeks: 1. Why we need a better-defined editorial function. 2. Some terms defined (developmental editing, copyediting, proofreading, etc.) 3. A diagram of the general editorial process 4. Relationships with the project manager, designer, consultant, and client 5. In-house editorial communications (light training? circulate info. and updates in-house?) 6. The Stylesheet 7. Print/electronic resources we need 8. Special issues regarding electronic content 9. My new job description My Question To You Is: What do you think of my situation and approach? Sincerely, A. Heidi Wrightsman
A. Heidi Wrightsman works as/at
"to be better defined" at Crisp Custom Training
I happened across your page while researching home business possibilities. As I mentioned, I am an educator on maternity leave. The thought of going back to teaching and leaving my child to be raised by someone else has me looking for other means of employment. Could you supply me with any information as to who to contact, how to get started or reference material relating to proofreading or copywriting ? Your help is greatly appreciated.
Lizz King works as/at
Educator on leave
Very interesting. I have just decided to graduate next semester with an English degree, and need to know my options. If you have any suggestions, let me know.
Shelby Canning works as/at
student
You're a very funny man ! Love this site - had fun learning about you and your job. I was looking through the "Aboutwork.com" site for possible work-at-home opportunities, and ran across the "proofreader/copy editor" listing. I have always been a fanatic about proper grammar and spelling, and am very detail-oriented. Would it be possible for you to provide me with any information on how you "became" what you are, and the name of anyone you might know that might offer an opportunity to proofread material? Also have excellant typing skills and would be willing to type anything from business letters to novels ! Any help you could provide would be deeply appreciated. Thank you. Have a great day !
Lisa Smith works as/at
self-employed mommy at present - was exec. secretary...
I was just searching through the different links and trying to find a job when I checked out your page. I'm a senior journalism student at Penn State and would like to copy edit upon graduation in May. I have had an internship with the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and plan on copy editing next semester with the Centre Daily Times. My question is, what do you think would be the best way for me to go about getting a job by July? I have scanned through two different job banks and called those papers looking for people, but I feel like I should be doing more. Any good advice? Thanks for your time, Hope P.S. I'll give you feedback about you page next time, after I've read through it more carefully.
Hope Caldwell works as/at
Student at Penn State
It's great I love it.
Jake KLuver works as/at
student
Excellent site, easy to explore, well written, concise, informative. Thank you for the information.
Dennis Barlow works as/at
Self-employed writer
Well, designed, thoughtful web page! Since I'm at a small newspaper, I do it all. No specialization. Funny you talked about Greg Brady in one of your quips. I interviewed him (Barry Williams) the other day for a story, wrote the article, worked on the photo our photographer took in photoshop, then designed the front page with the story and photo on it (after writing the cut.) :)
Robert Quigley works as/at
Assistant news editor, The Daily Sentinel (Cox)
All I have to say is you're dropping science like a clumsy chemist.
Scott Weaver works as/at
Student at DePauw University
There was some good stuff. We are always having difficulty with editing. This is a good web page to refer back to! Thanks for the help Tricia
Tricia Chambers works as/at
Home Daycare
I think that there was some great stuff. I am book marking this page to save it for future arguments in my newswriting class. WE can never decide what form or styles should be used so now we can look. Thanks for a great web page! Teresa Bauer
Teresa Bauer works as/at
Old Country Buffet table busser
Question, Bill. When does one use born vs. borne? Can't find a good reference on this one. Any ideas? Context: "Born out of the Oxygen Therapy group in St. Charles,..." I suspect it's the one with an "e" but can't reason it. And thanks for sharing the sickness.We're forming our own proofer's anonymous group over here.
elena dunivan works as/at
communications project coordinator
will access your page often to settle lots of arguments. we have difficulty convincing military folks that they should be consistent and adhere to a style guide....we keep trying...love your pages...lots of good stuff here... my wife is a former copy editor for the St. Pete Times and most of our social circle involves copy editors. we make field trips to point out all the errors in billboards, window signs, etc. i know, we should get a life, but then, who would point out all these errors? keep up the good work!
chet justice works as/at
chief, community relations, u.s. special ops command
I am retired from 25 years of technical writing and am trying to start a part-time business. The contents of your site will be a great help.
Colleen Jensen works as/at
self
Actually, one of the best forms of constructive criticism is to have one's writing corrected. Perhaps if more teachers would do just that in the classroom, we would have Ph.D.s and executives who actually know how to spell and use proper grammar, punctuation, etc.! I'd actually like to see more of the "YOU MIGHT THINK IT'S............BUT ACTUALLY IT'S" types of articles. Thanks for the good stuff!
Joan Marcantelli works as/at
Self-employed; word proc/proof-edit/secretarial serv.
I would really like to find out more about how to get into this field. It seems like it would be rewarding, yet fun to deal with the different ways people project themselves. I do not have a current resume, however I could get a great list together in no time. E-mail is always welcome.
kelli schmidt works as/at
student/homemaker
It's a good source for additional copy editing information.
Russell Petcoff works as/at
Public Affairs, U.S. Air Force
> yediting of cops instead of the editing of copy. Get it? > That’s OK. Nobody does. Several people have > written me to “correct” this “typo.” I was laughing loudly at this point, and my roommates looked at me oddly. Your web site is vastly amusing.
Ben Steele works as/at
Student at Central Washington University
Grammer and writing of today really bug me. I really enjoyed exploring your web, 90 minutes of it. I have added it as one of my favorite places.
Roger G. Ketelsen works as/at
Recovery specialist, Accent Service Co.
I think it's great that someone has taken the time to further the efforts of news writing in such a practical manner.
SSgt Christopher J. Haug works as/at
Headquarters, Pacific Air Forces Public Affairs, USAF
Very good. I have already added to my favorites and will use as a resource when answering questions from one of the numerous newspaper editors that I provide guidance and policy for. I will be conducting a workshop for nearly 200 military journalists in San Antonio next week (Oct 27-31) and will mention your site as a good resource for those hard to find answers that are not readily available through the AP Stylebook. The key being consistency within the publication. Thanks for providing a truly unique and needed product.
Tech. Sgt. Randy L. Mitchell works as/at
Air Force Newspaper Consultant, Air Force News Agency
Amazing. Clear, concise, witty. Many folks don't realize this, but a sharp point, well expressed with a touch of humor, is easier to remember and live by than some dusty old rule from a grammarian's traumatic childhood. Well done.
Charles D. Gray works as/at
Copy editor, CitySearch NYC
I'm battling deadline, so this was a quick hit. Looks great so far. I'ts in my "Favorites." Will be frequent visitor, even if just for yuks.
Ross Day works as/at
Base paper editor, Kelly Observer
I saw the stuff on Ali, and as we live just noth of him I was interested. Good job. I don't know how to get a hold of him either. Buzz
B. Holmes works as/at
Personal. And useful in many ways (to know that there are many others like one self out there, to obtain good data for the job, to know what to do and not to in a personal page).
Gabriela Tenner works as/at
copy editor, project editor Ministerio de Cultura y Edu
I've put The Slot on my "faves" list.
Jim Cypher works as/at
Literary agent, self-employed
I found it to helful. I like your article on commas. That's my weak point. My husband said, he is going to buy me sshaker of coomas:)
Bessie Van Tassel works as/at
Unemployed, but looking for work.
Your page is the _best_! Everyone should visit your page and memorize it! I have many friends who are English professors and who complain bitterly about their students' lack of good grammar. I'm going to show them this page!
Stephany Gould works as/at
Language Lab Director, James Madison University
Just checking in - haven't looked at your site much yet.
Geoff Foster works as/at
self-employed
I copyedit English that's been translated from Japanese (usually by non-native English speakers) -- nothing more angrifying than having to explain why We (American English speakers) like to break the rules of grammar and all common sense (see: Japanese education system). I'll have to direct my colleagues (former English-language teachers who are now film journalists and proofreaders, depending on which day it is) to your fabulously crusty site.
Marybeth Stock works as/at
Freelance copyeditor-rewriter / PR & translation firms
"Interesting site," said one curmudgeon to another.
Barbara A. Porter works as/at
Prior: proofreader; layout. AAAS's Science
I desperately want out of teaching. It is a high intensity position with a minimum wage salary. I long to do freelance writing from my home. Help! I need a mentor, advice, and a plan. I love to write, proof-read (the English teacher in me), and create. Any advice you could offer would be tremendousy appreciated. P.S. I am almost embarrased to write this--but it may be of importance. I have submitted an article to a magazine that is to be published in a forthcoming edition. Thank you, Julie :-)
Julie Merriman works as/at
G/T Teacher - Meridian ISD (English and SS Teacher)
None
Wendy Penrose works as/at
student
GOOD STUFF--ALTHOUGH YOU KNOW THAT ALREADY.
CARLTON D. ROBERSON works as/at
INFO. MANAGER, USAF
It's a peat-bog out there. And this has been like finding a mountain stream in its midst. I am edified. What's more, I have laughed out loud. Thank you.
Jef Riner works as/at
copywriter/self-employed
Interesting site
Jorge Boskovic works as/at
Director of Sales, ImpSat USA, Inc.
I am excited to learn of your website. While I am not working in the field of journalism, I still have an interest in writing. I've already learned much from my first visit here. I look forward to future vistits to your site.
Lue Watts works as/at
Claims Analyst/CENTRA
The stylebook was cool.
Chuck Kelly works as/at
Self
pretty interesting. Do you freelance? How'd you get started?
Justine Whitaker works as/at
presently unemployed
I would like to start my own business at home using a computer or whatever it takes. I understand there are publisher who will pay you to read!!! I am currently working about 60 hrs a week and I still read 4-5 books per week (I am using up my vacation or I wouldn't be sending this during the day]. I am hard working, but do not know how to find the right direction as I understand everyone is not as honest as I am accustomed to-yes I am a small town girl who still believes in God,Family,Apple Pie(homemade] and of course my Dog.I would like to hear from you or any of your guests who can help.TKS MA
Marcia works as/at
BusMgr/JimLockwood Dodge
I would like to start my own business at home using a computer or whatever it takes. I understand there are publisher who will pay you to read!!! I am currently working about 60 hrs a week and I still read 4-5 books per week (I am using up my vacation or I wouldn't be sending this during the day]. I am hard working, but do not know how to find the right direction as I understand everyone is not as honest as I am accustomed to-yes I am a small town girl who still believes in God,Family,Apple Pie(homemade] and of course my Dog.I would like to hear from you or any of your guests who can help.TKS MA
Marcia works as/at
BusMgr/JimLockwood Dodge
An Internet site with -- dare I say it -- content! Stop by and visit my site and say hello.
Jim Rosenberg works as/at
Partner, Benefits firm and freelance humor writer
I enjoyed your site very much. I would love to find at-home work that includes indexing and proofreading of index entries. I have been doing this for about 12 years at the Washington County Free Library in Hagerstown. The project started with the 1790s papers and I hope to index the 100 year collection, taking us up to 1890, when the local papers were published daily. I was very interested in the information on copy editing and it certainly gave me alot to absorb. I also enjoy your humor. I marked this as one of my favorite places so that I can get to it easily. I'm definitely marking Sharp Points for future reference! Thanks, Sandy
Sandy works as/at
Retrospective Newspaper Indexer @ Wash. Co. Library
Neat site. Thanks. Disagree about accents, though. When accents are omitted in words that take them, the word is misspelled. You have a good point about names, though. Gordie is super.
Christine Valentine works as/at
editorial director, books
I love your site! It's been very useful in convincing people here that our publications need help to be easy to read. Too bad there isn't more on computer formatting. I go around and around trying to convince people that two spaces after a period are not necessary since computers use optical spacing (www.dhalstead.com has some good information). How is the spacing done for your newspaper: through typesetting or through Pagemaker or similar programs?
Matt Beyers works as/at
Economic Development Specialist, Tx Dept. of Econ. Dev.
I liked it! I want to start my caeer in journalism as a copy editor. I graduate from the University of Nebraska in December. Anyway, I thought you had some good points, and some picky points. I like picky. I am picky. Picky is good if you're a copy editor. You're funny, too.
Julie Sobczyk works as/at
Student, managing editor of the Daily Nebraskan
I enjoyed your site very much. Please continue your rants; I find them entertaining but also enlightening. One topic, in particular, I would like to read about regards the use of the word were. Recently, I have noticed a trend in print, literature and business reports toward the use of were with I. For example, "if I were an angel," "if I were rich," etc. Is this correct. It's beginning to drive me crazy. I could have sworn that these phrases should read "if I was...". Nevertheless, I hear this on the news and see it in print. I'm beginning to wonder if I took a really long snooze at some point and missed a national pronouncement on the subject. Either that or I never did understand the nature of were. (No reference to philosophy intended, honest.)
Trina D. Schetzle works as/at
Manager, Perecom Translations
What an exciting concept. I've always wanted to do this kind of work. I'm presently looking for a business I can run from home - this sounds perfect. I'm the sort that always notices the speling errors above all else.
Jacqueline Clough works as/at
Billing Specialist - CLEAR Communications Ltd
I am trying desperately to find "online" work, so that I can work from home. I am interested in doing copy editing, or something along that line. Can you direct me? Where do I go. I want to work from home since I have an infant and don't want to leave her with babysitters. Thank you. I've been doing secretarial, desktop publishing and editing for over 20 years.
Karen Moreland works as/at
Office Manager-Unitarian Society
I was initally shaken by what from my fast read appeared to be your cavalier approach to dashes and hyphens, but was largely mistaken. You didn't distinguish among all the dash varieties, and I realized there was probably no reason you should. I like your expertise and passion for getting it right.
D. Walker works as/at
self-employed
Love your spot. I once knew a fellow who was a jerk, but not picky. (He was indiscriminate--a jerk with everyone.)
Kathleen Cahill works as/at
Exec. Secretary, Idanta Partners Ltd.
The world needs more curmudgeons. You can't be a jerk. You live with a cat. Felines have a talent for keeping one humble. We have two cats and two dogs who, at times, are our only link to sanity. Keep adding to the stylebook. If it ever is published in throw-the-book-at-'em form, let me know. Tossing a computer at a writer expends too much energy. Cheers!
Susie Peyton works as/at
Director of Public Relations, Marshall University
I enjoyed your site very much. Have you considered having a type of bulletin board here? It could be a place where editors and wanna-be editors could post messages, have debates, ask advice, or whatever. I don't know enough about Web authoring to know if it's possible, but I think it could be a cool resource. Ciao, Jody
Jody Bailey works as/at
Editor, Phaneuf Associates
I'm exploring home based businesses and copy editing popped up. I would be interested in any information I could obtain on medical copy editing. I found your site interesting but would like more information on my specific area of interest. Thanks!
Paula Belle works as/at
Pharmacy Manager Winn-Dixie, Inc.
I've been looking for copy editing material regarding Internet/intranet. Your site is the first place I've found anything useful (and you agreed with what I've been doing all along!).
Joy Moskovic works as/at
Senior Editor, Public Works and Government Services
I am an avid reader (4-5 books per week) and I work 60 hrs per week. Would like to find a way to stay home and work. What better way to earn a living than doing what you love.
marcia works as/at
bus mngr car dealership
Great idea "Sign the guest book"!! How long have you been a Copy Editor?? I am interested in this industry. Do you have any info relating to doing this at my home?
Annie Delgado works as/at
Admin. Asst., Shilling & Kenyon, Inc. (CPA firm)
Well, as someone who 1) loves to read 2) would like to write 3) cant spel I enjoyed the site and have it bookmarked Thx Scott
scott r may works as/at
a oh... an Engineer
Hi There, As I sit here looking for different sites geared toward women who are interested in starting their own home business, I came across your site. I am a writer, an editor, and a proofreader (so, I like to add that last comma, okay? :-) ) I currently work p/t for an educational resource program on the internet. I do editing for this company. I've also started to do some things on a freelance basis for individuals and companies. I have all of the equipment needed. So, do ya have any suggestions or leads in reference to doing what you do on a freelance basis from home? I'd like to take this further. Any information would be apprieciated. Your field sounds very interesting! Get back to me when you can, okay? Thanks a bunch!! Respectfully, Ronelle Fleming
Ronelle Fleming works as/at
Editor, American Cybercasting Corporation
I read all of the Sharp Points and they're right on the money. Congratulations. It's a fine site, and I'll cheerfully refer people here for grammar therapy. But, Bill, what happened to the apostrophes? It _really_ bugs me that a copy editor's site is so basically flawed. Ah well. As my favorite sig line says, "If it's ineffable, somebody will eff with it."
Janna Patee works as/at
Publications Manager, Sybase, Inc.
Thanks for the trip. One suggestion: Lowercase "the"; the cap looks pretentious. Another: Address the distinction between "most" and "almost," as in "Almost anyone can come." Or is "Most anyone can come" acceptable?
Bill Caligan works as/at
Technical Publications Manager, TRW
I love this page. You've answered so many questions I've had. And you've also given me good reasons behind some rules I hadn't been able to explain. I was reading the area about Internet terms, and I thought I'd let you know that the 1997 AP Stylebook lists "online" as one word in all instances. I think that's a change from the earlier version, but it makes life a little easier for us copy editors. Thanks for a great resource! Michelle Watson
Michelle Watson works as/at
Copy editor at the Johnson County Daily Journal
I am sending your URL to fellow (sister?) English teachers and others whose sense of humor may be up to this. I am impressed and laughing out loud in the middle of the night. I'm no copy editor, but I have plenty of stylistic pet peeves. I love it. Thanks.
Shelley Paul works as/at
grad student
Unique!
Linda Wilson works as/at
Adm. Asst. - in education (curriculum & staff dev.)
I would like to know the best way and the easiest way to get started in the proof reading and copy editing business.
Diane McDevitt works as/at
School Secretary/Catholic School
I love you - will you marry me? It's so nice to see intelligent writing . . . I'm surrounded by co-workers whose writing is atrocious - horrible grammar, spelling, punctuation, word usage - they can't even abbreviate Lincoln-Mercury properly (it's L-M, and half of them spell it L/M). Dates are likely to be 10/14th/97, or September 15/97, or just about anything, actually. They worry that a dealer will "loose the contest." They like it when we all get together and "consense on the issue." They're very interested in helping dealers "grow their business," especially "in lieu of the fact that we have all these incentives," which should "incentivize the sales force." I begin to feel like a bowl in a china shop (which I guess must be pretty fragile). Marry me and take me away from all this! (Can you imagine anyone actually marrying someone they met on the internet? I've actually known [vaguely] two people who have left marriages and children to marry someone they've barely met!) I do have a serious question for you: Doesn't "ensure" need a "that" after it? My co-workers alway write "To ensure we get enough allocation, report your sales." I think you could "insure the cars," but you have to "ensure that we get the allocation." Please give me your thoughts to ensure that I'm not throwing in too many that's - I already use too many dashes (and parenthesis) in my own writing - but then, that's how I talk. I'm always interrupting myself, just to be fair. Please feel free to expound on your theory of "that," as I have not been able to locate any rules, and therefore must go by my gut, which has gotten me in trouble before. I think that I may overuse "that," but I think other people underuse it, so perhaps reining myself in allows us to reach a happy medium. Pardon my lack of "concisity," as I am "franaticly" trying to get other work done as well. Ah well, I guess it's a "mute point" now. (And these people get paid much more than I do! I fail to understand capitalism.) I really like your website. Thanks! (BTW, you have a typo in the Hackers entry.)
April Daniel works as/at
Administrative Analyst @ Lincoln-Mercury RegionalOffice
I love you - will you marry me? It's so nice to see intelligent writing . . . I'm surrounded by co-workers whose writing is atrocious - horrible grammar, spelling, punctuation, word usage - they can't even abbreviate Lincoln-Mercury properly (it's L-M, and half of them spell it L/M). Dates are likely to be 10/14th/97, or September 15/97, or just about anything, actually. They worry that a dealer will "loose the contest." They like it when we all get together and "consense on the issue." They're very interested in helping dealers "grow their business," especially "in lieu of the fact that we have all these incentives," which should "incentivize the sales force." I begin to feel like a bowl in a china shop (which I guess must be pretty fragile). Marry me and take me away from all this! (Can you imagine anyone actually marrying someone they met on the internet? I've actually known [vaguely] two people who have left marriages and children to marry someone they've barely met!) I do have a serious question for you: Doesn't "ensure" need a "that" after it? My co-workers alway write "To ensure we get enough allocation, report your sales." I think you could "insure the cars," but you have to "ensure that we get the allocation." Please give me your thoughts to ensure that I'm not throwing in too many that's - I already use too many dashes (and parenthesis) in my own writing - but then, that's how I talk. I'm always interrupting myself, just to be fair. Please feel free to expound on your theory of "that," as I have not been able to locate any rules, and therefore must go by my gut, which has gotten me in trouble before. I think that I may overuse "that," but I think other people underuse it, so perhaps reining myself in allows us to reach a happy medium. Pardon my lack of "concisity," as I am "franaticly" trying to get other work done as well. Ah well, I guess it's a "mute point" now. (And these people get paid much more than I do! I fail to understand capitalism.) I really like your website. Thanks! (BTW, you have a typo in the Hackers entry.)
April Daniel works as/at
Administrative Analyst @ Lincoln-Mercury RegionalOffice
Now I know what I want to be when I grow up! By the way, I turned 40 a few months ago. I never imagined that there was a career doing what I used to do as a favor for my fellow employees. It was also one of the few parts of my former job that I enjoyed and helped delay the nervous breakdown that I eventually suffered. That (the breakdown) is why I'm not curently working. Your website is great and has me hopeful and excited about my future again. If you have the time and desire to offer any advise you can bet I'll take it. Thank you so much! I'll be visiting your site regularly to study your advice. Kind regards, Nancy Stanley
Nancy Stanley works as/at
unemployed
I love this place! I wish it had been around when I started in this biz twenty years ago. I don't always agree with you, natch, but I'm always interested to read your impeccably laid out opinions. I've touted the site to my sister, who's in roughly the same line of work as I, and I'll also be sure to spread the word amongst like-minded friends.
Kate Gilbert works as/at
freelance copyeditor (sorry, all one word to me!)
Great site ... I'll return. I always thought it would be fun to work on a newspaper, but I don't like to write headlines. Is this an irrational fear? Anyway, I am content to edit texts on transportation engineering.
Susan Brown works as/at
Freelance editor (formerly w/Nat'l Academy of Sciences)
i'm trying to convince my husband that me is correct in a prepositional phrase rather than i. for example, "he gave the book to you and me"; not "he gave the book to you and i". i've edited four newsletters and have found that there is always more to learn. thanks for the work you have put into this site.
mrs. janie kimble works as/at
between jobs
My wife, Dr. Betsy (Cook) Alderman, has written extensively about copy editors. Her work on editor burnout has been published in numerous industry journals. Her work is scholarly, but even a former editor like me can understand it. I'd be happy to get copies for you. I know others who drop in here would find it interesting reading.
Dan Alderman works as/at
design editor, The Chattanooga Times
Thank goodness there is still someone out there who has heard of the AP stylebook! I consider mine a bible. Just as the IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet) is to announcers. I left a position with a local publication after suffering the frustration of their total lack of professionalism regarding the written word. I intend to inform them to visit your site and learn how to communicate. Everyone seems to be trying to write for the illiterate and have lost the ability to clearly convey thoughts through the written word.
Jan Pierson works as/at
self employed
opps, haven't read anything yet, wanted to be sure to sign your guest book first
Marilyn McClure works as/at
Marshall University
Again, thank you for a no-nonsense source for grammar and editing. I realize you are busy, but did not see this particular problem addressed on your site. What would be the proper possessive for Any Company Inc. Is it "Any Company Inc's policy..." or "Any Company Inc.'s policy..." I think it's the latter, but please advise. I would dearly love to correct this person. Regards, Adrienne Pavan
Adrienne Pavan works as/at
PAREXEL International
I want to get started in this field. Can you help me? My address is 305 Bluebird Drive.
Melissa Saville works as/at
raising children and a husband
Just wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed your update--almost as much as the original. Thanks for giving me the "proof" I need on so many occasions.
Nancy Orchard works as/at
Secretary - Crawford & Company
I'm a student teacher at Lubbock High School. In a few days I will be teaching a lesson on cutline writing. Can you help? I need some hard and fast rules. I need some dos and donts. Thanks so much if you can help.
Joe Toland works as/at
Student Teacher
Good job! I'm working at a grammatically challenged publishing company that has no plans to improve in this area, and your site is a comforting place for those of us who still care about the little details of life and language. Have you considered adding a discussion board? Or am I just missing it? Keep up the good work! And if you ever end up as a copy chief in the Kansas City area, I want to work for you!
Sarah Smith Nessel works as/at
I found an answer to my question, thanks
Ashley Sundin works as/at
Editor of school paper
It's a great website. I know I could use most of what's found here in my editing class next semester (in an English Second Language (ESL) setting). I'll be a frequent visitor and might even ask questions one of these days (that's why I included my e-mail address). More power to you and good news!
ROSANA D. CONGJUICO works as/at
College Instructor (news editing)
I find the Web so tiring -- but so interesting. I'm marginally "respsonsible" for our School's home page (just editing the text and acting authoratative), but I still spend almost no time surfing -- or even looking things up. But when I do -- like on a Friday afternoon when it's time to go home -- it can be great fun. And now -- home.
Lois H. Wood works as/at
Editor, Thayer School of Engineering/Dartmouth College
I've been having problems using your E-mail address. The Slot is great! You've touched on all of the issues I address (and often can't find the answer to) daily. Here at Betac, we are frequently challenged by our writers. Your clear explanations will be very helpful to me in answering the "why" of editorial decisions. I'm happy you took my comment yesterday in the spirit in which it was intended. Personally, I enjoy the dialogue and welcome your corrections and suggestions. (I believe I misspelled "preceded.") Interesting to read you are a coal cracker from Pottsville, the home of Yuengling beer. My hometown, Lost Creek, is a nearby "patch" (are you familiar with that term, short for "coal patch"?). Question: In regard to using a singular or plural verb, does "percentage" follow the guidelines given for "number": The number of players is...; a number of players are...?
Belinda Notz works as/at
technical editor, Betac Corporation
I haven't really looked at much yet, but I've downloaded the Curmudgeon's Guide which I'm hoping will solve a few problems...
Neil Davenport works as/at
Self employed translator and occasional proof reader
Love it. Use if for teaching reporters. One thing, though. I don't think you have it in the stylebook. How 'bout "baited breath" as opposed to the correct "bated breath?" Drives me nuts.
Phillip Thompson works as/at
news editor, Navy Times
I liked your site. It's colorful, easy to read, and most of all informative. Now I know what a copy editor is!
Gloria Fisher works as/at
Writer of Christian nonfiction books
I like your sarcastic tone. Reminds me of my former newsroom co-workers.
Mary Heimstead works as/at
Senior media rep., Northern States Power
A nice litle summary of the jobs a copy editor has and what they are to do.
Cindy Y. Wiggins works as/at
Student @ ENMU
I was searching for something specific, but found myself browsing at a lot of things. I'm searching for the correct order of academic degree initials after a name. Most names I work with have multiple degrees. Thank you, in advance, for any help you can give me.
Lori Harris works as/at
Executive Assistant, CPRO
To restate what I said above, this is a helpful addition to the internet.
Lil Junas works as/at
Visiting Asst Prof,Journ, Wartburg Coll
Interesting "stuff." Concerning the sentence above, I would not capitalize the "d" in don't or insert a period after jerk unless the punctuation, in this case, the colon, prededes the parenthesis.(My preference is for the first example.) Your comments (don't worry; I won't correct your . . . jerk): Your comments: (Don't worry; I . . . jerk.)
Belinda Notz works as/at
technical editor, Betac Corporation
1. I want to be just like you.
2. Based on what I've read, you would agree that "decision-maker" should be hyphenated. Should it?
3. I remember hearing about a case of the absent serial comma causing an inheritance problem. The example was a sentence that read,
(something like) "I leave one million dollars to Jane Doe, Jim Doe and John Doe." Jane received half, and the other half was divided between Jim and John. This case, in my opinion,
demonstrated the true and actual need to insert a comma before the last in the series, yet the absence of the comma still prevails, even in legal documents. What are your thoughts?
Margie Rossi works as/at
Secretary, Corning Inc.
Thanks for the helpful web site - I get all the grammar questions as well as the research ones. You can bet your page will be bookmarked here!
Adrienne Pavan works as/at
Manager Library Services, PAREXEL
I like what I see so far. I'm sure I'll be tuning in frequently and if/when I get an e-mail (one style point we need to add to the old book) address, you'll probably be hearing more from me. Incidentally I was a copy editor in Metro at the Post from '87 to '90. Do they still have that awful system?
Nancy Wood works as/at
redesigning Chi Tribune stylebook
I like what I see so far. I'm sure I'll be tuning in frequently and if/when I get an e-mail (one style point we need to add to the old book) address, you'll probably be hearing more from me. Incidentally I was a copy editor in Metro at the Post from '87 to '90. Do they still have that awful system?
Nancy Wood works as/at
redesigning Chi Tribune stylebook
where do you find time to do this when we can't get our act together here to put a stylebook together for our jobs? you shame us. yes, yes, it's terrific. bravo. lots of useful stuff, as well as a support group for us beleaguered souls toiling away in thankless anonymous jobs (wasn't there a petition to add "copy editors" to the statue of liberty's "give me your poor your tired your huddled masses yearning to be free"?) anyway, kudos.
sherri d'aloisio works as/at
navy times, design editor
Entertaining, informative and stylish; a refreshing change from much of the rubbish to be found out here!
Lewis Brown works as/at
IT Proj. Mgr, Cbdg Advanced Electronics
Hi. (That's the least I was supposed to say, right?) I'm a Spanish guy very interested in languages in general and specially in Spanish (original, uh?) and English. I have to confess that I am quite purist (if this word exists in English) and picky. I like using a language as properly as possible, that's why I am very pleased I have found your page. I'm sure sure it will be a very helpful resource for my improving of English and you can be sure I'll visit this page very often. Well this is about it. Thanks for your page and keep helping languages not to get dissolve in that dark and terrible mist called lack of interest. :-)
Pedro J. Moya works as/at
Working for a small lolcal TV sation.
I like curmudgeons; they're interesting. Although we use Chicago style for our alumni publication, I found many of your points helpful. I especially needed help with Internet, World Wide Web, etc. Do you capitalize e-mail? I guess you can tell my opinion already, but I'm interested in yours.
Meg Cullar works as/at
New Editor, Baylor Line, BU Alum. Assn.
Andrew V. Marsters works as/at
Adviser, Free Press
I was browsing for a link to give me an essay idea for my UofM Dearborn, UAW-Ford "Writing in the Workplace" Comp 105 class, and stumbled into your webpage. It gave me ideas to work with for formulating my second assignment, a 1000 or more word annotated essay of my choice. Thank you. Your mathmatical insights will be remembered for some small while, as far as I'm concerned!
Theresa Young works as/at
QOS Coordinator
I'll reserve my comments for after I've looked at you thoroughly.
Jerry Cox works as/at
Writer-Editor, US Geological Survey
I didn't have room in the "job and employer" slot, so I'll tell you here that I'm a Technical Specialist in the Systems Department of Herrick Memorial Library at Alfred University in New York State. I'm a former English teacher turned computer geek, so I thoroughly enjoyed your website. You're a curmudgeon but a lovable one!
Linda S. Hardy works as/at
Herrick Memorial Library at Alfred Univ.
I contacted you one time with the use of the word "infamous." I was under the impression that the word could be used positively if in that context. Apparently I was wrong. I lost my job over that word. I still beleive the word can be used (colloquially) positive or negative. What do you think?
Jessica O'Neill works as/at
Internet Solutions
I love it! I hope you do get a book deal -- I'd definitely buy copies for both home and the office.
Emru Townsend works as/at
Technical Writer, Coreco (by day); Freelance Writer, Various (by night)
Excellently witty site. I'd like to present some of these examples to students in a classroom (using a projector).
B Hyde works as/at
Teacher
The Slot is a great tool. I especially like that you express opinions forcefully, and that you've addressed subjects overlooked by the AP Stylebook. Speaking of AP, why didn't it add a "computerese" section in the most recent edition. We urgently need an authority for such usages as website, web site, Website, or Web site, and online or on line.
Charles Smyth works as/at
Managing editor, Northwest Health mag
The site has a nice design, and it seems like a good reference. Thanks.
Jo Ann Reece works as/at
Editor, University of Oklahoma Press
The site has a nice design, and it seems like a good reference. Thanks.
Jo Ann Reece works as/at
Editor, University of Oklahoma Press
Do you have a rule on words/numerals? I do remember a style guide that said use words up to .... But I am rather foggy on the breakpoint. I believe it was tens and up. I hope you have no objections to my setting a link to your page on our Milwaukee Intranet. We are trying to build a good online reference list. Maryann Grubber
Maryann Grubber works as/at
Compuware Corp/ Web mstr/trainer
I particularly liked your comments on a convention I have long deplored: the use of 'some' instead of 'about' or nothing. Speakers with impeccable (British-Royal-Family) accents use it so often, and sound so confident and erudite, that it's become accepted. What I'm really trying to do is find a part-time training course in copy-editing/proof-reading/publishing. I have a good English degree which I have never used directly, working as I do in a family business. My husband should retire soon, which means selling the business, and I will be free to change careers. Do you know of any courses? I should greatly appreciate hearing from you. I have bookmarked your site, and will continue to enjoy it in any case. Thanks Barbara
Barbara Loon works as/at
Admin Manager
This is a great reasource and I'll be back to use it. Thank you.
Joni Herren works as/at
Community Development, EPNI
I have found the points you make -- not that I've examined every one (yet) -- very helpful in clarifying various issues for my students.
Helen Moore works as/at
professional writing teacher/editor
I was very impressed. I will have to visit again when I can stay longer. I will also send any interested students here.
Dianne Huddleston works as/at
Teacher - Tuttle Public Schools
I just got here, so no profound observations. But it's interesting and fun, and I put it into my browser's Bookmark List. I'll be back.
James Coronato works as/at
Writer/editor/resort owner...Self
I think this is a really informative page, but a couple of additions--the use of the comma with "such as" and "as well as" constructions would be helpful.
Mary Turner works as/at
associate production editor, Mosby Inc.
I think your site is great. And I agree with your philosophy on copy editing one hundred percent.My pet peeve is the use of the phrases "center around" and "head over heels" and "I couldn't care less." Anyway, thanks for your insight and keep up the good work. Mark Z.
Mark Zimmerman works as/at
Publications Editor
You have great site! Entertaining *and* useful! I'm going to tell everyone I know about it. We've got a higher-than- average concentration of editor-types around here. We appreciate a good style guide, especially one with a sense of humor. Thanks for your entry on accent marks. What to you recommend we do about tildes (~) in Spanish-language names and words? Thanks, Challiss
Challiss E. McDonough works as/at
grad student, journalism, UNC-CH
Enjoyed this first visit very much, especially since we seem to think alike on virtually all curmudgeonly points. Might as well test those waters right off by asking if you agree with my minority position on a grammatical question exemplified by the sentence, "A tribute to she who will drive you crazy, sleep with your friends..." This was cited in the June/July 1996 issue of Copy Editor (Q&A, by Mary Beth Protomastro) as incorrect and NOT akin to "A tribute to whoever drives you crazy...", i.e. it MUST be "A tribute to her, who will drive..." I say it can be correct either way, just as Rumpole of the Bailey would have to say "A tribute to she who must be obeyed..." I believe the Post takes Mary Beth's position; where do you stand, Bill?
Randy Frey works as/at
magazine editor, American Chemical Socie
Your site is a breath of fresh air, and a source I can point a finger toward when the less-than-anal around me say things like, "Why do you put hyphens between so many words?" My job as Creative Director at an in-house agency comprises several duties including copy-editing tasks. I'm constantly amazed and dismayed at what I see as the ever-increasing lack of care people place in the proper use of the language. Anyway, here's my latest peeves that I hope you might comment on. These are all issues with which I have enemies, but I know I'm right, by God. (Speaking of taking the Lord's name in vain, I noticed you write "damn it" rather than "dammit." I know both are correct, but I'm wondering why you prefer it as two words. The shorter, the better, I always say.) 1. I maintain that "Internet" is a proper noun that should always be capitalized. However, "intranet" and "extranet" are not, and should not be. 2. "World Wide Web" is a proper noun, so referring to a site as a "Website" or "website" is wrong, wrong, wrong. It should be spelled only as "Web site." This drives me nuts. 3. Since when did we start spelling the word "negotiations" as "negosiations"? Okay, we don't spell it that way, but it sure gets spoken that way a lot. 4. Why do people have such a hard time with "only"? I find myself trying to explain this all the time. "If you say, 'He only bought a hamburger,'" I'll try to explain, "that means he didn't eat it, or even look at it--he only paid for it." Then I'll get a weird look. 5. Would you write, "Chaucer's The Canterbury Tales," or "Chaucer's Canterbury Tales"? (Imagine the titles in italics.) Keep up the good work. Steve
Steve Beavers works as/at
Daisytek International
Your site is a breath of fresh air, and a source I can point a finger toward when the less-than-anal around me say things like, "Why do you put hyphens between so many words?" My job as Creative Director at an in-house agency comprises several duties including copy-editing tasks. I'm constantly amazed and dismayed at what I see as the ever-increasing lack of care people place in the proper use of the language. Anyway, here's my latest peeves that I hope you might comment on. These are all issues with which I have enemies, but I know I'm right, by God. (Speaking of taking the Lord's name in vain, I noticed you write "damn it" rather than "dammit." I know both are correct, but I'm wondering why you prefer it as two words. The shorter, the better, I always say.) 1. I maintain that "Internet" is a proper noun that should always be capitalized. However, "intranet" and "extranet" are not, and should not be. 2. "World Wide Web" is a proper noun, so referring to a site as a "Website" or "website" is wrong, wrong, wrong. It should be spelled only as "Web site." This drives me nuts. 3. Since when did we start spelling the word "negotiations" as "negosiations"? Okay, we don't spell it that way, but it sure gets spoken that way a lot. 4. Why do people have such a hard time with "only"? I find myself trying to explain this all the time. "If you say, 'He only bought a hamburger,'" I'll try to explain, "that means he didn't eat it, or even look at it--he only paid for it." Then I'll get a weird look. 5. Would you write, "Chaucer's The Canterbury Tales," or "Chaucer's Canterbury Tales"? (Imagine the titles in italics.) Keep up the good work. Steve
Steve Beavers works as/at
Daisytek International
Thanks a lot, your site has cleared up some things that the Irish Times style book made confusing. cheers.
Simon Basketetter works as/at
Journalism student
Hey, I noticed that you mentioned the U of M and some other Mighigan things so I looked at your resume/personal information and noticed the Madison Heights reference. I used to work for an engineering firm kitty corner to the Oakland Mall and thought that I would write you a short note just to say, "Hey, I know that area." As for a question... How about this. Note the above use of the slash between "resume" and "personal." Should there be a space before and after the slash? Hope you are enjoying your time out of Michigan, but I must say that the fall colors here (at least today) are fantastic. - TCYun
T. Charles Yun works as/at
KEI Engineering, Quality manager
It's a pretty cool site - the points you make in the stylebook are argued well and easy to understand. All in all it's an interesting, entertaining, informative read.
Stephanie Jacobs works as/at
Student, University of Calgary
I was taught that periods and commas are always place inside of quotaion marks. There were no exceptions to this rule. True or false?
Janice Wilson works as/at
English IV teacher; Lawrence County High
In order to fully remember all that is on your site have printed out many pages. Not only is your site very informative but will be quite educational to me, trying to learn writing,of poetry and anything else that may come into my mind to try.Will continue to visit your site as it's great. Your bookmarked!! for future viewing.
Marcia Hunt works as/at
Sales associate,Wal-Mart
It is good to have a current, reliable resource.
Nicole Fountain works as/at
Copy editor, IDG Books Worldwide, Inc.
I want to bear your child.
Judy Lacourciere works as/at
Editor, Lockheed Martin
Your Web site is vastly entertaining. I will enjoy coming back to it to dip into your ongoing observations.
Heather Parker works as/at
Editor, The Alberta Teachers' Assoc.
I am really glad you created this site. I am trying to change careers and this site is a wonderful tool. Thank you.
deana marie kirsch works as/at
...still looking
I am a graduate assistant and former small-town journalist who has been thrown into two news-editing labs with about 14 students each. I am hunting for ideas and exercises to supplement my professor's lectures. Do you have any suggestions? My compliments on your website.
George Strawley works as/at
graduate assistant, Ohio State Universit
C'mon ... all writers/copy editors are jerks. Just kidding. I dig it. It beats the hell out of the drek I have to write/sell each and every day. Silly me, I thought I would get to be creative if I joined a creative department. >>>
Scott M. Collin works as/at
Copywriter, RTCdirect
Good job.
Eileen Conoboy works as/at
Editor, Huthwaite Inc.
very nice site -- good to know there are copy editors out there who really care about what goes in print. I'll be back.
Mike Baxter works as/at
Copy editor, Athens Daily News
A very interesting web page. You're obviously very dedicated to your career. I'd like to ask your opinion on getting work in the publishing field. I'm interested in page design and headline/copy writing/editing (copy editor stuff, I guess). My problem is I don't have much experience (about 6 months as a temp writing marcom and doing some page design for a consulting firm). I also have a degree in Mass Comm., and four years experience in the film industry. Frankly, no one wants to hire a temp/free-lancer. Perhaps I need to be more focused. Where would you suggest looking for such work? What job titles should I be looking for, and how would you suggest I go about getting work aside from answering ads in the paper (of which there aren't many). I live in the Boston area and would love nothing more than to land a full time job doing desktop publishing. Anyway, I really enjoyed your web page. I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks so much!
Mark Mendoza works as/at
copywriter - temporary (blech!)
Great page! I'm going to link it to my Advanced Expository Writing and my Writing for the Professions pages.
Theodore C. Humphrey works as/at
Professor of English Cal Poly Pomona
Thanks for the info. on "on line." You got me to back down on my argument, which is quite a feat. Thanks for ending our war!
Vicki Walker works as/at
Editor, The CFIDS Association of America
A rather cursory review left me pleasantly surprised and satisfied. The ultimate complete was an immediate bookmark to enable further exploration and use. I am always impressed by others who have the time to create a useful tool such as this site and who are then willing to share it. Thank you for your generosity.
Cheryl Gray Ball works as/at
Education Specialist at Va. Dept. of Edu
Quick question, do you know of any useful web sites for copy editors? We are doing a class project in my News Editing class. Thank you and have a nice day.
Krista Kruse works as/at
Ohio University-still a student
A debate has been raging in a friend's office:
more well-rounded student
OR
better-rounded student
?????
Please tell me which is correct and why. I have offered my own humble explanation, but it doesn't seem to be good enough. I am hoping there's strength in numbers! Thanks for your help!
Julie Buchheit works as/at
Copy editor, IDC
Two days in a row, I've visited The Slot. What fun it is to read your rants! I'm just sorry you don't update every day. Talk to you soon. Theresa
Theresa Falzone works as/at
editor-of-chief
Nicely done. I'll recommend to students. . .
Michel Coconis works as/at
Asst Professor, Grand Valley State Univ
I enjoyed your web page immensely. It helps me in my transcription work. I will refer to it often.
Allison works as/at
Office Manger and Homebased typist/word
I was just browsing around because my husband is planning a web page. Your style is very similar to his. I thought I'd drop you a line because your web site seems a lot better than many of the commercial sites I usually encounter. Yes, I'm a lawyer but the good kind.
Erika Koster works as/at
attorney (computer)
Very useful site. Was hoping to find whether 2nd person is considered acceptable in a student newspaper. If you have an opinion on this I'd like to hear it. Thanks
Patrick Healy works as/at
Palm Desert High School, Teacher
I enjoy reading about language usage and grammer. I am disappointed in how much I seem to have forgotten. However, it apparently isn't as much as some of the people writing for newspapers and news broadcasts seem to have forgotten. Sometimes I think I would like to be a proof-reader or copy editor.
Deborah Land works as/at
Assistant Manager, Information Systems
I'm an editor and am trying to teach copyediting to my staff. Any books you can suggest?
Theresa Falzone works as/at
editor in chief, Lawrence Street Publica
I *really* like this site! I have added a link to it in my Favorites and e-mailed my coworkers with the URL. I am a technical writer, not a copy editor, but we do a lot of editing here, and I've run across a lot of the same errors (my personal pet peeve is apostrophe misuse). In addition, you address a number of issues that I didn't know about--for instance, the distinction between lawyer and attorney. (Don't tell anyone I admitted that--note where I work and you'll see why!) In any case, thanks very much for sharing your stylebook with the rest of us!
Naomi Kritzer works as/at
Technical Writer, West Group
just found your page. I was searching for an address for Dr. Denny Wilkins, who taught me everything I know. You don't happen to know him, do you? more later on your site. pat ryan.
Pat Ryan works as/at
night supervisor,NYTimes News Service
Great page. I've bookmarked it and will visit often!
Judy Larwill works as/at
College of DuPage
I think it's a great site. I haven't been through all of it yet, though.
Anne T. Maase works as/at
Copy editor, The Daily Oklahoman
I find this a very valuable resource. It keeps me from phoning my good friend Lew Gloin who is an ex-editor for The Toronto Star and the writer of their "Words" column. Thank you for doing it. Tom Williams
Tom Williams works as/at
Online Mortgage Explorer
I love this site. I worked as a proofreader some time ago, and am currently up for a position as a copyeditor. I searched the WWW looking for sites to help me brush up on my skills; yours has been both informative and enjoyable. Thanks.
Kristin Satterlee works as/at
currently unemployed
Love this site. I don't get very much variety in editing on this particular contract (with the Marine Corps); when something unusual (for the Marines) comes into the writing I see, I can usually find a ruling on it here. Thanks.
Nancy Fitzgerald-Greene works as/at
Technical Writer, CSC
'ABOUT' AND 'SOME' Don't make a definite number sound like a wild guess in order to avoid writing out a number at the beginning of a sentence, as in "Some 44 people were killed." Either you know it's 44 or you don't. If you know, it's "Forty-four people were killed." If you don't, it's "About 45 people were killed." "Some" is a wimpy cross between "about" and "I know"; "about" works only with nice, round numbers. QUESTION: How do you effectively avoid spelling out a number at the beginning of a sentence?
Vincent Carpenter, Sr. works as/at
newswriter, Baylor University PR
This is my first time to access your page and I just sort of skimmed through the contents if they're worth my while. I will be back again and again because any copy editor worth his salt should benefit from your disease! kudos!
Percy Roxas works as/at
Editor, Asean Journals Co. Ltd.
Picky is good; nit-picky is very good. Who wants nits in their work?
Harold Hunt works as/at
Writer at The Cape Coral Daily Breeze
Thank you for a very enjoyable site. I do think one could argue that "media" has evolved into a catchall term for reporters and their outlets, but I appreciate your wish to standardize its usage.
Elizabeth Hunter works as/at
administrative assistant
haven't read it yet, will send comments later if I have any
Holly Johnson works as/at
reporter, Asset Alternatives Inc
Hello. I have been doing research on the copy editing field in the trade publishing industry. I have a journalism degree, but am not interested in news ed. If you would be so kind to send me some words of advice. I graduated in May and am looking for -guess what? EXPERIENCE! I've considered moonlighting (volunteering) at some publications in town. What do you suggest for someone who wants to get started? Thank you very kindly, and have a good night.
Kara works as/at
I am impressed with your "What Exactly Is a Copy Editor" article. May I use it with our classes? We do not have web access in class for our students. I would port your document into *.PDF format to use with the Acrobat Reader. We would not charge for its use, post it for the public to use, etc. We are a vocational school in the Pacific Northwest. I would like to "simulate" web use and use your document as a reference work that our students could access "on-line."
Dave Cook works as/at
curriculum - BCTI
I'm working out of order and signing the guest book before I look around, so no comments yet ....
Lauri Lockwood works as/at
Slot editor North County Times
I also have a word that always jumps out at me when it is misused and it is being misused more and more. The word -- myself. Perhaps you to have noticed its growing misuse for me and, horrors, also I. He gave some to John and myself. Susan and myself won the round. I'll be back. Gene
Gene Hughes works as/at
Contract Programmer
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Deborah Gump works as/at
News editor, Marin Independent Journal
The full name of my employeer is: Personal Engineering and Insturmentation News The name is too long to fit in the list above, and most other lists, for that matter.
Brian Bishop works as/at
Assoc. Editor, Personal Engineering
I don't really have any at the moment
Anne Young works as/at
copy editor, at Emap Computing.
I think this is a wonderful site. I particularly like the "Sharp Points" section.
Kim Pearson works as/at
Journalism Prof -- TCNJ
Great site! Makes me want to get a real full-time job.
mel myers works as/at
full-time Mom, part-time copy editor
I'm considering a career in copy editing. After reading your page, now I'm sure of it. I'm looking for copy editing positions in Orange County, CA. Do you know of any links where I might find some listings? Thanks a bunch, I really like your page. Terri Jones TJones5516@aol.com
Terri Jones works as/at
fun to read; it's bookmarked so I can check it out again when, or if I have a particular question. What did you think of AJR's story this month about copy editors??
renee k. gadoua works as/at
local copy chief/Syracuse Newspapers
You are cool.
Linda Acton works as/at
copy editor for The Republic
I have been looking for some help with a specific question of grammar. I work as a "court reporter," which is a somewhat misleading description because we no longer use shorthand writers here but record the sound in 6 or 8 minute grabs and it then gets typed up by the "court transcript typist" - me. We have a turnaround time of one and a half hours, so we work very very fast and we have to punctuate on the run. I have a request. Could you punctuate the following paragraph for me, please? Before you come to those two grounds let us say that his Honour did obtain a pre-sentence report and the pre-sentence report revealed that your client suffered from depression and that imprisonment was likely to affect his health detrimentally to a serious degree do you say that the court would have been obliged to place him on probation to impose something other than a custodial penalty
Bev Scholz works as/at
Court transcript typist
Hi: I like your site. I just spent an hour, and I think that's the most time I've ever spent on any Web site. I have a request. We have many young copy editors at the Honolulu Star-Bulletin and are looking to bring in someone for seminars on headline writing and copy editing. We would cover airfare, hotel and car rental, and pay a consulting fee. The right person would be experienced, knowledgable, energetic, able to teach and fun to listen to. Can you recommend anyone? Have you done seminars before? We are not part of a chain, so we can't draw on those resources. Thanks for your time. I'm contacting several people with this request, so don't feel guilty if you can't provide any names....Steve
Steven Petranik works as/at
News Editor, Honolulu Star-Bulletin
I think your site is fantastic.
S. Durant works as/at
Nat'l Education Assn.-cyberspace editor